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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:07 pm    Post subject: [Seed] Series Mechanics Reply with quote

Post any mechanics that appear in the show here. Keep the discussion lively, but no flaming.

Try to keep the Destiny stuff in the other forum. Astray is okay here.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are some wierd gundams in the orb section that I have never seen in seed before, on
http://www.gundamofficial.com/worlds/ce/mechanics/index.html
Can someone fill me in?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your talking about the astrays?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The gold astrays, blue flame astrays, and the gold flame astrays.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are MS from the manga
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the topic of the Astrays....

Is it ever explained how the Astray Gold Frame Amatu's main weapon the Maga-no-Ikutachi drains energy from Mobile Suits exactly?

I'm assuming it can rechange it's battery with this energy as well?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gundam Official has a profile for the Providence Gundam, and the Strike Rouge. In Providences profile, they have a pic of it with its phase shift deactivated.
http://gundamofficial.com/worlds/ce/mechanics/images/ms_providence_b.gif

If you ask me, it looks better without its phase shift active.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fou-Lu wrote:
On the topic of the Astrays....

Is it ever explained how the Astray Gold Frame Amatu's main weapon the Maga-no-Ikutachi drains energy from Mobile Suits exactly?

I'm assuming it can rechange it's battery with this energy as well?

... I'm going to take a running leap here and guess that the Maga-no-Ikutachi's technology would actually be similar to that of the Gel Finieto; it might use quantum wireless technology to suck energy from an enemy even when not in contact.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

draining energy without touchin is way advanced id say. maybe it works on the theory on magnetism only on the line of magnetic energy so he can somehow just get near and the energy is pulled to him? just a thought.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

damnation wrote:
There are some wierd gundams in the orb section that I have never seen in seed before, on
http://www.gundamofficial.com/worlds/ce/mechanics/index.html
Can someone fill me in?


mmm... but there somethings i would like to voice out... There are so many Ms isn't out in the series... Why that so???
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are all from the Astray mangas; the Astray series coincides with the animated series, and pretty much rides right alonside it; it also fills in a few gaps that are left behind by the series.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To avoid clogging up the speculation thread I'd like to ask a question here about the DRAGOON system.

Exactly what is required to use it? Can anyone do it not just Raww or Muu?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fou-Lu wrote:
To avoid clogging up the speculation thread I'd like to ask a question here about the DRAGOON system.

Exactly what is required to use it? Can anyone do it not just Raww or Muu?
There's no official information on that yet; i'm not even sure Mark Simmons really knows..actually, i don't think there'll be any info on it unless it's trickled through Destiny. Providence's mech profile is up now, can't believe i forgot about it..but it really doesn't say anything we don't already know.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:55 pm    Post subject: Plasma Beam Cannons? Reply with quote

I remember reading a reply on the forum stating that Plasma Cannons don't exist in SEED, yet according to the Gundam Official website, the Freedom and Forbiddon are armed with such wepaons.

So the question is who's right: The reply or the website?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The website, the poster probably made a mistake.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are Plasma Beam Cannons. How these differ from regular Beam Cannons is something I have yet to discern, although they do seem to be more powerful. My guess is that the overall make-up of the beam is different. I should think that's a question for Mark Simmons and/or Keith Rhee to answer...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They don't know; the CE has no explanation as to what beams are composed out of.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I remember reading a reply on the forum stating that Plasma Cannons don't exist in SEED, yet according to the Gundam Official website, the Freedom and Forbiddon are armed with such wepaons.

So the question is who's right: The reply or the website?

I'd be that poster so lemme rephrase that: They don't have TRADITIONAL Plasma Cannons in CE at all. They appear to just be an upgraded beam cannon. For now anyways.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And what's "traditional"?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay maybe that's not the best wording either. Something other then a beam cannon upgrade.

Like something that fires plasma rounds or something like that.

Quote:
and get some plasma guns like F91 had

I've never seen F91 but I'd assume the mechanics in SEED are a little different?

The person on that topic was asking for plasma guns on Nu Freedom so obvoiusly they think Freedom doesn't have it.

Not cannons and I said GUNS which are different then cannons yes?

Also I editted that out of my post anyways -_-

Someone must have seen it in the ten minutes it was up before I editted it out.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, plasma, by definition, is an ionized gas..now i don't know what that has to do with the cannon and it's level of power, but evidently, it makes a beam stronger, or is used to make a beam by it's lonesome that's stronger.

Now, the F91 had VSBRs, which fire mega particals, so i don't know where "plasma" got into it there. However, VSBRs are extremely powerful, and i think they were wondering if the secret to the rifle's power lyed within some sort of "super charge" it got from a plasma.

If there's one thing everybody agrees on here, it's that plasmas for some reason deal out more damage than conventional beams. "Why"? we'll probably never know, really.."plasma cannons" where virtually non existant in the UC, and nobody really knows what beams are to begin with in the CE, so we can't really go on anything to figure out what a plasma cannon is supposed to be.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hope this post is allowed in this thread...

Are there any official explanation given for the mecha names? (i.e. Strike, Buster, Duel and Blitz)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero Wing wrote:
Fou-Lu wrote:
To avoid clogging up the speculation thread I'd like to ask a question here about the DRAGOON system.

Exactly what is required to use it? Can anyone do it not just Raww or Muu?
There's no official information on that yet; i'm not even sure Mark Simmons really knows..actually, i don't think there'll be any info on it unless it's trickled through Destiny. Providence's mech profile is up now, can't believe i forgot about it..but it really doesn't say anything we don't already know.


I think this is the information about Dragoon System

Disconnected Rapid Armament Group Overlook Operation Network System (DRAGOON System)

A unique feature of the Providence Gundam, the DRAGOON System consists of eleven independent beam emitters which can be coordinated to attack targets from several directions at once. While similar in concept to the wired gunbarrels used by the Moebius Zero, the DRAGOON units are controlled via wireless quantum communication, which is immune to the disruptive effects of N-Jammers. Using this system requires superhuman powers of spatial awareness, which are extremely rare among Naturals and Coordinators alike.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm that sounds about right. Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the blitz gundam seems a little weeker as the story progressed i mean i find it hard to wrap my mind around that the Blitz's right arm would just be sliced off in one slice. even with the strikes beam sword. now i also noticed that tere wasint much emphasis on the blitz
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