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 Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 6:08 pm Post subject: Dub Episode Discussion |
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With the dub release of the first episode of Gundam SEED Destiny, I'll go ahead and allow discussion on the episode itself, voice actors, etc. Just follow the rules, please.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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Guest please don't Spam elaborate what you didnt like about it.
Anyway personally I did not find it quite as good as Gundam seed. However personally I found it to be not as horrid as people like to say it was.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:50 am Post subject: |
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Americans... just don't do emotions quite as well as the Japanese. I watched the sub, and I was unimpressed with Shinn's voice actor. The crying and screaming... just wasn't working. It sounded so fake. Although, I will say one thing nice. Meyrin's VA was quite good. It was believeable.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:58 am Post subject: |
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Although I didn't get a chance to actually watch the dubbed version myself from what I have heard it may have sounded a tad awkward to them be speaking english I still heard that they pulled it off quite well. We may all think that its not that good but still, thats because we are used to GSD the usual subbed version that why.
| hirochampion wrote: | | Americans... just don't do emotions quite as well as the Japanese. I watched the sub, and I was unimpressed with Shinn's voice actor. The crying and screaming... just wasn't working. It sounded so fake. Although, I will say one thing nice. Meyrin's VA was quite good. It was believeable. |
Um.... first off isn't it a bit too opinionated to say that the Americans just don't do emotions quite as well as the japanese. Because quite honestly who is #1 in different forms of media's in the world today? It's probably the United States, so I don't really think its a good idea to say that the Americans don't do it quite as well as the japanese. But anyway, just out of curiosity because I'm a tad confused. How could you be unimpressed with Shin's voice actor with bad crying and screaming when you watched the subtitled version. I mean that is the original version that we have seen is it not? So how can you really say that it was bad when there isn't anything to compare it off of. Also just a friendly note, this is the dubbed section, this isn't the section for the subtitled version of Gundam Seed Destiny, so please take all discussions of the subbed versions to the other section. Please just keep this discussion strictly to the dubbed version of GSD.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 2:02 am Post subject: |
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Have you listened to the screaming of Shinn in the dub compared to the Japanese version? It was just... not very good.
And yes, America may be #1 in AMERICAN media, but when they try and dub Japanese anime, it is a rare event for it to come out well. I can count on my hand how many I was actually impressed with.
Also, I am afraid that some important parts will have to be left out due to violence. Not too many, not enough to affect the series, but some.
I mean, GSD is pretty violant for young kids.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 4:43 am Post subject: |
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Then again, you don't really expect parents to allow their children to watch anime with near-nakedness in the OPs, no?
Anyway, on topic. The only English-dubbed GSD I'm currently watching is the Singaporean one. I'm not sure whether The American team is behind the dubbing, but I am disappointed to say that it is, well, disappointing.
Shinn still sounded like a 16-year-old kid, except that he lost his Angst Factor, even when going "AAARRRGGHHH" at everything. Stellar's voice isn't Stellar's; if anything, it reminds me of someone else 20 years her senior without her innocent retard feeling. The VA of the old Fab Four(KiraLacusCagalliAthrun) are quite okay, or at least palatable, since those are the same voices I heard in GS dub.
For now, that's all.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:37 am Post subject: |
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Sodrohu, I'm watching the same thing. Seems like the dub was done in Vancouver, Canada here... but its either the Canadian one got censored in some parts, or KC just think that that part is inappropriate. They censored a few parts, the OPs with Shinn and Stellar and the part when Yolant's remark came after that.
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| Seed Force wrote: | | Um.... first off isn't it a bit too opinionated to say that the Americans just don't do emotions quite as well as the japanese. Because quite honestly who is #1 in different forms of media's in the world today? It's probably the United States, so I don't really think its a good idea to say that the Americans don't do it quite as well as the japanese. But anyway, just out of curiosity because I'm a tad confused. How could you be unimpressed with Shin's voice actor with bad crying and screaming when you watched the subtitled version. I mean that is the original version that we have seen is it not? So how can you really say that it was bad when there isn't anything to compare it off of. Also just a friendly note, this is the dubbed section, this isn't the section for the subtitled version of Gundam Seed Destiny, so please take all discussions of the subbed versions to the other section. Please just keep this discussion strictly to the dubbed version of GSD. |
Opinionated? Hardly. Classic example is Natarle getting shot in the end of SEED. The japanese voice actor was screaming bloody murder... the English VA sounded like she was having a cow... D:
GSD is a major improvement over SEED, I'll say that.
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| Deacon Blues wrote: | | Seed Force wrote: | | Um.... first off isn't it a bit too opinionated to say that the Americans just don't do emotions quite as well as the japanese. Because quite honestly who is #1 in different forms of media's in the world today? It's probably the United States, so I don't really think its a good idea to say that the Americans don't do it quite as well as the japanese. But anyway, just out of curiosity because I'm a tad confused. How could you be unimpressed with Shin's voice actor with bad crying and screaming when you watched the subtitled version. I mean that is the original version that we have seen is it not? So how can you really say that it was bad when there isn't anything to compare it off of. Also just a friendly note, this is the dubbed section, this isn't the section for the subtitled version of Gundam Seed Destiny, so please take all discussions of the subbed versions to the other section. Please just keep this discussion strictly to the dubbed version of GSD. |
Opinionated? Hardly. Classic example is Natarle getting shot in the end of SEED. The japanese voice actor was screaming bloody murder... the English VA sounded like she was having a cow... D:
GSD is a major improvement over SEED, I'll say that. |
Eh... I dunno about that. Yeah, parts are better, but I thought the SEED dub wasn't too bad. I mean, the screaming is always terrible with an English VA, but it was better in SEED.
But on topic...
I need to see more of this before I can truly give a finished opinion of the dub. I am just worried that, like in many dubs, the original spirit of the anime will be lost in translation.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Is there even a time that was announced as to when Gundam Seed Destiny is actually going to start airing in the english version?
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Nothing as of yet... I've just been watching the Singapore airings xD
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| Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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The voices are so bad (begins to sob) however Rey's vioce will be awsome when we hear him (go Kuby Marrow, vioce or Trowa from GW and Von from Escflowne).
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| Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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I liked it well enough. It's only the first episode give the people time to find their roles. It's hard to do a dub as the carecter is already animated for the japanese actor.
I also like to point out the fact that since we dont speak Japanese we cant really say for certain if the jap voices are nailing every line correctly or screwing up phrases and syntax. |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| 7th wrote: | | I also like to point out the fact that since we dont speak Japanese we cant really say for certain if the jap voices are nailing every line correctly or screwing up phrases and syntax. |
Lol... Funny you should mention that. I have actually caught minor errors in Japanese speech that don't fit the way the mouths are moving. Lol...
It may be true, and you also make a good point that it is hard to dub a Japanese character. That is why I am not too fond of the dub. 
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| Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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| When did the first episode air and what channel and what time? |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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The English Dub has not aired, not to my knowlege. I downloaded it off a torrent.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| it aired in Singapore tehre up to.14 I think |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 12:32 am Post subject: |
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Nah, on Christmas, it was the 13th  Freedom's back! Has started on the 2nd of October and has already aired until it ends in September 2006 though.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:05 am Post subject: |
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Wish it was airing here in america
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 3:18 am Post subject: |
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| hirochampion wrote: | | 7th wrote: | | I also like to point out the fact that since we dont speak Japanese we cant really say for certain if the jap voices are nailing every line correctly or screwing up phrases and syntax. |
Lol... Funny you should mention that. I have actually caught minor errors in Japanese speech that don't fit the way the mouths are moving. Lol...
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The mouths aren't going to fit every word they say....It should be a known fact. Unless you are going to animate every Japanese sound, into a mouthing, and put it on, mouthing is going to look off.
If you were talking about the Voice Actors messing up words, I haven't seen any as of late.... |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| unless you speak Japaneese I doubt you ever will see it |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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I don't mind the english dubs, well at least I didn't for Seed. That's why I'm waiting for Destiny to come to Canada before I see it.
But the truth is that the reason voice acting in North America is so far from being as good as it is in Japan, is because anime is so much more popular over there. I mean,one episode of Gundam Seed was watched by something like 8% of everybody in Japan (I got this from http://ashi.anime-epoch.com). That's a lot of people. Much more than here. I even heard that the show was advertised on coke cans (I forget, it might have been pepsi).
It's because of how anime is just as popular in Japan, as Hollywood movies are here. That's why they get all the famous voice actors, and can hire famous J-pop artists to do their opening and ending songs. Meanwhile, in North America, everything is far from that. We don't spend as much time and effort on our anime here, because not as many people care about it. I mean why would you spend millions of bucks on something, if nobody's going to care about it.
I'm not trying to flame anime, because I like it a lot. It's just that we need to start changing how anime is seen in North America. I read somewhere that they're thinking of making a Gundam series, made specifically for North America. If they start doing things like this, maybe North American anime will become so much better.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Yes they will have the same voices like they had in Seed.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Artein wrote: |
But the truth is that the reason voice acting in North America is so far from being as good as it is in Japan, is because anime is so much more popular over there. |
this an incorrect staement anime is not much popular over tehre it is normal over there. In the US it's still considerd somewhat more of a niche thing |
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