Kira Yamato

Lord Sagara · Captain Joined: 31 Mar 2007 Posts: 1028 4469 Units

Whoops wasn't specific.What I meant was that when he first got into the Strike he couldn't do anything with it because Kira had completely rewritten the OS to something only a coordinator could use(it was around the Artemis ep or when they were about to go to earth.
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coba · Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:21 pm Post subject:

CommandoDude · Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:31 pm Post subject:

coba · Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:21 am Post subject:

jimbob · Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:33 am Post subject:

The orginal OS were just terrible. Even the Zaft guys who stole it couldn't do much more than fly straight with them. Hardly the zipping around we see them do later after a standard Zaft OS is loaded.

And Kira's Strike OS was his own custom one. Only Kira could use it effectively. Another Coordinator might be able to figure it out after awhile but he pretty much made everything nonstandard.

coba · Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:45 am Post subject:

Crimsonjustice · Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:19 am Post subject:

Look, the original OS wasn't finished. Murrue says this when Kira was messing around with it. Yzak or whoever commented on the crappy OS because Coordinators use a different OS and he's full of himself, and probably because he didn't know it was unfinished either. Later in the show though the EA finish that version of their OS and use it in the Strike Daggers while Orb incorporates a revised OS that Kira worked on for them. The one Kira changed Strike's into was his own personal OS that only he could really control effectively.

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Ciel · Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:05 pm Post subject:

None. You explained it really well
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Redcomet · Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:21 am Post subject:

My opinion is that it is not completly unrealistic. In fact i read that theyu have something similar to PS armor in development.

Redcomet · Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:23 am Post subject:

Well Kira's custom OS was because he completly re-programmed it for a coordiantor to use, Muu syas the OS is too complicated for a natural to use.

coba · Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:27 am Post subject:

velvet nightmare · Gundam Pilot Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 2271 7755 Units

we'll never know of mwu himself ever got into the GAT models and actually try to use them

sure he 'says' they're too complicated but he doesnt realize he has more ability than a regular natural

coba · Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:38 pm Post subject:

zxpipo · Civilian Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 4 121 Units

Kira is incredably skilled, however he limits himself by only hitting opponents in non-vital points as to merely disable them.

Throughout the series we are constantly reminded that Kira is against killing (thats the whole reason Shinn was able to defeat him with the Impluse), why do alot of people seem to forget that.

Kira only feels the need to kill in rare circumstances (end of GSD).

T26 666 · Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:26 am Post subject:

I was indifferent to my opinions on Kira Yamato who some have labelled as divine, godly and Jesus but I ask you what do people like about him.

He completly destroyed his friend Sai. He stole his fiance, assualted him and taunted him. Thats probably why Sai's not in destiny, otherwise people would remember what Kira has done and his status as a perfect good guy would go down faster than Titanic.

And he will forget his ideals in a second if you get him mad.

If they had shown Kira actually trully sorry I might have liked his character but instead we are treated to his holier than thou criticism and I don't have to kill because my suit is so much more powerful than everyone else's. But what happened when he met suits as powerful as his. Think about it.
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jimbob · Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:52 am Post subject:

Oh come on! In SEED he was fine. Yeah he messed with Sai but that was mainly due to the effect Flay was having on him, and he clearly felt bad about it later and they made up in the end. He was for the most part a sweet humble kid in SEED.

In Destiny though he was no longer a hero but rather part of the factional battles going on. Although he was a bit arrogant and selfish I really didn't see the problem with him prioritizing Orb over Zaft since Orb is his home.

His blindly following Lacus against the Destiny Plan was where I started to dislike him (but since I didn't like the Destiny Plan personally I still rooted for CF)

I still found him to be more pleasant than Shinn who always seemed pissed off at something whenever Stellar wasn't around. Of the three main characters though Athrun was the one I supported the most.

I hate Lacus and everything about her though and think Kira should have ended up with Fllay.

Redcomet · Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:35 am Post subject:

Yea, i just learned he becomes an Admiral in ZAFT. Now that is favortism if i ever saw it. Even if he is the ultimate coordiantor, making him a Admiral? Normally, you need expierience as a naval officer for that. It would be better off if he was on the freaking supreme council. I could stomach that, at least then it would appear that PLANT was not completely messing with Lacus at the helm. This is exactly why I hate Kira, this is like those stupid fairy tales where the hero saves the princess and becomes King as a reward. Kira did not freaking earn that Admiral position. He was never in the ZAFT military. Going from fighting against ZAFT to being one of the high ranking admiral is soo far fetched. Why not make Muu defense minister of Orb? O murrue an admiral in the Orb fleet. >.> This is an obvious sign of Lacus' favortism. Even if it wasn't out of favortism, it sure looks like it.

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Isaac Maxwell · Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:26 am Post subject:

More Kira bashing... I liked Kira and don't see everyone's problem with him. While I admit I did like Kira a lot more at the beginning when he was just some clueless kid that got thrown into the military, he seemed like a normal kid (abilities aside). In Destiny he seems like he is a lot more sure of himself and I guess that's why people say he's cocky, but I still like him.

T26 666 · Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:38 pm Post subject:

Klaha Sama · Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject:

Actually bashing is allowed and welcomed in this section. Or shall I say appropriate bashing (You know opinions that are backed up properly). Thus why the section is called "CE Rants."

I notice that most fans really had no problem with Kira back in Gundam Seed. Like most of the other characters he went through a struggle and changed as the story went on. In Gundam Seed Destiny his character didn't really go through any changes from what I could see. He seemed rather cold and off in his own world for the entire series. The events of Gundam Seed must have really gotten to him. I personally don't have a problem with Kira in Gundam Seed Destiny but for those that do I can understand why. Like with a lot of other things in Destiny Kira wasn't handled properly.
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Redcomet · Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 2:38 am Post subject:

It wouldn't have been that bad if Kira was only in a cameo. Shinn ans Athrun were the leads, butr then Kira takes shinn's place, he even encounters Dullindal in the end instead of Shinn or Athrun (which in my mind would have made more since they felt betrayed by him) As for his battle with Rey, complete ripoff of the one with Rau. I saw no reason for it. They are just in improved versions of the Gundams used in Jachim Due. I wish Fukada was more origonal....

luna_rainbow · Wing Commander Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Posts: 381 1779 Units

We can put it down to either poor writing or actual intention that Kira doesn't seem as close as one might expect to his parents. After Heliopolis went up in flames, I think he spared about ten words wondering if his parents were on the shuttles, and there was never any mention until Orb, at which time he didn't want to meet his parents. I'm a bit fuzzy on this though. He must have had some inkling that he wasn't his parents' child, because when Cagalli came up with "Kira, I am your sister", he wasn't exactly knocked out by the news. He didn't even think that was implausible, no denial phase, no "what are you talking about, my parents had only me" kind of thing, not even verifying with his parents back on Orb.

We were also never given the reason why Kira was originally, right from the beginning, so against war. When Murrue wanted him to pilot Strike, he kept shouting, "No! I hate war!" and "We came to Heliopolis to avoid war."

jimbob · Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:19 pm Post subject:

Wow I never realized people though Kira was an evil bastard for what he did to Sai. I mean they got over it. Flay was setting them up for that point and she was really at fault. I mean wow Kira is actually human. Thought your problem was he was too perfect.

And they should have just shot down the nukes and left? So GENESISing the Earth was ok then? Cause you know thats what else they were trying to prevent total destruction of both sides. (not to mention destroying the Earth would doom the coordinators to extinction with a century or so.)

Kira was fine in SEED. Other than his whinyness I didn't see the problem with him. He struggled, he didn't side with Athrun just because he was his friend, and he had a hard time in combat (as opposed to Shinn who aside for 3 times generally tore through EA grunts easily. Kira was a hero.

Then Destiny came along. Kira gave up his hero postion to instead side with Orb his country, which I can respect since it is his home and I could see why he puts Orb solider lives above Zaft. Till we get to end where Kira is the hero again because Clyne Faction is more just than all sides all of a sudden. Yeah, now we are getting out of hand which I blame that damn woman Morosawa who I refuse to address as a writer ever for this (apparantly she's some nutcase who thinks she is Lacus or some stupid thing God I hope she gets locked up.)

Why Kira is an admiral is beyond me. His battle strategies suck and consist of everyone staying back while he chops up everyone until they go away. I mean I came up with a better method for getting the Orb fleet to stand down than he did.

Anyway Seed was fine and Destiny should be erased from history. This is why you don't do a sequel for a Gundam AU because the fans will want the same thing again.

Biolink · Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:13 pm Post subject:

That was one of Kira's better moments.The entire Flay ordeal.I wish we had seen more of that kind of character out of Kira in Destiny.
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T26 666 · Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:26 am Post subject:

There's no evidence whether anything truamatic happened to Kira or not and if it did wouldn't it be worth mentioning.
Seriously he was living on ORB and Heliepolis, how much war could he have possibly have experienced. And Athrun didn't choose to join ZAFT, he felt compelled because the plant his mum was on had been destroyed. If anything Athrun was regarded as hateing war although later on his constant side switching though at times understandable did become a nuisance.
And when I said that they should have blown up the nukes and left, you missed the point entirely. No one knew about Genisis so why should have Athrun and Kira stayed if they had no intention to join a war cause they didn't know genisis was there.
Some may argue Genisis revealed itself right after they destroyed the nukes but in gundam time about 3 mins can equal an hour. Remember it takes one hour to change the Antenna for Genisis.
And my problem with Kira is that he is REGARDED as perfect not that he is.
Kira Yamato is considered the best pilot also which is a blatent lie. How many characters have to beat him before people realise he is not the best. You know I would have enjoyed seeing him lose many more battles during the middle of both series and then win the final war.
And about Earth killing it's own men, sorry maybe I didn't phrase it right. What I was trying to say that it's easy for Lacus and Kira to criticise as they have nothing to lose in the war or lost too much.
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