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 Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 3:15 am Post subject: Sven's future (post-Stargazer) |
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To start with, I'm one of the people that believe Sven and Selene are still alive because if you're hybernating, your body is pretty much surviving on bare minimum, so they were probably fine.
I can basically see 3 things happening him;
First; Despite all the anti-coordinator training and brainwashing (nazi enough for you Azrael?) he underwent while growing up, reject blue cosmos while with DSSD, realizing that MOST of them, coordinators or not (and only two characters, Selene and that blonde guy, are confirmed to be coordinators) are civilians, and attacking the satellite was inflicting pain on millions of innocent lives, so he decides to stay with DSSD and follow the dream he had BEFORE his parents were killed by the random terrorists.
Second; This might seem odd cause Selene looks -alot- older than him, I can see him and Selene getting together. Surviving something big (like a journey from Venus back to earth) together can do that to people (Athrun, Cagalli, Shinn, Stella are great examples....)
Third; Meeting up with Kira or Lacus or one of the main heroes from SEED at one point, even if it's just for a simple conversation, thus furthering his turn against Blue Cosmos.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:21 am Post subject: |
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| #3: pure speculation but not impossible |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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i really wanted another episode explaining this
i think a combination of #1 and #2 would have been kool
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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I would have MORE respect for him if #3 was avoided at all cost. And as funny as this might sound, I wouldn't mind if he returned to what was left of the EA. If there is anything left that was worth saving, I would like to see that.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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Erm please no with the Third.
I don't want anymore victims from the mind controlling of the Lacus Clan |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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I always like to see characters meet.
And besides, if he's going to go good, he has to be able to fight for a good future with that team (I believe I've heard them being called Terminal, but I'm not sure....)
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| Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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If 3 happens, I want it where Sven goes goddamn nuts when he hears Kira's philosophy, DUR DUR LACUS DUR FUTURE DUR PEACE DUR DUR. This is when he pulls out his pistol and shoots Kira in the face while Kira has his deep "serious discussion" face.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:37 am Post subject: |
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3 would be awesome except it really wouldnt mean anything unless Sven had a new mech and was fighting along side them.
Personally, I think the first one is more prone to happen. Someone pointed out an age difference (which is about a 9 yr gap), so I have a feeling that the second one is more improbable. |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 8:58 am Post subject: |
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I think the first one fits Sven best. The second one seems to be like Kira getting Murrue. I cringe on the idea of the third one.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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| OniTempyst wrote: | | If 3 happens, I want it where Sven goes goddamn nuts when he hears Kira's philosophy, DUR DUR LACUS DUR FUTURE DUR PEACE DUR DUR. This is when he pulls out his pistol and shoots Kira in the face while Kira has his deep "serious discussion" face. |
ok that was a very stupid comment you just made. Think of something better you character basher.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:35 am Post subject: |
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Okay, I'm calling it now:
At some point in the Seed Movie, or possibly Seed 3, the Mars Jacket or some sort of Astray variation is gonna show up, own someone who was about to kill a main character, and then it'll have a shot of the cockpit with Sven piloting it.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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How about this (just my imagination going wild)...
Sven meet's Kira & the crew. Lacus bored with Kira's non-stop EMOmanners decides to "approach" Sven. Lacus finally get's "her groove on" with Sven... they make wild passionate violent "secks" !!!!
Kira discovers them, he's deeply hurt, he cries, then goes off on Strike Freedom and declares WAR on the UNIVERSE. Shinn Asuka joins Kira, because Lunamaria always liked Athrun so much more.
It's now up to Sven, Athrun and Lacus to stop these EMOlosers (Kira & Shinn) before they're EMOtions and and crazy EMOrage destroy's the entire universe.
LOL !
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| Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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You can only hibernate to a certain extent. Unless they end up on a planet and get defrosted or something, but I doubt they would be able to survive that. Who knows, that may very well open up the gateway to a new series that involves an advanced alien race. Its nice of them to make it open ended.
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| SAsuka wrote: | | Who knows, that may very well open up the gateway to a new series that involves an advanced alien race. |
If I'm not mistaken, didn't Selene propel Stargazer on a course back to Earth? Also, after the end credits, there is a small scene in which a transmission from Sol is heard on the Stargazer, most likely meaning that they made it back to within range of human contact. As interesting as it may be, I think the possibility of them traveling to some distant alien planet is out of the question for now.
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| Silver Wind wrote: | | SAsuka wrote: | | Who knows, that may very well open up the gateway to a new series that involves an advanced alien race. |
If I'm not mistaken, didn't Selene propel Stargazer on a course back to Earth? Also, after the end credits, there is a small scene in which a transmission from Sol is heard on the Stargazer, most likely meaning that they made it back to within range of human contact. As interesting as it may be, I think the possibility of them traveling to some distant alien planet is out of the question for now. |
Yeah Selene and Sven certainly made it back to Earth, but she said even with medicine they would only last 27 days max. That transmission from the emo dude happened 669 hours after Selene set the Stargazer back on course to Earth. I don't know about CE humans, but we can't survive for 21 hours w/o oxygen.
But hey, you never know, a certain someone was pulverized by an anti ship particle beam and he didn't die 
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: Sven's future (post-Stargazer) |
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| sorin255 wrote: | | First; Despite all the anti-coordinator training and brainwashing (nazi enough for you Azrael?) he underwent while growing up, reject blue cosmos while with DSSD, realizing that MOST of them, coordinators or not (and only two characters, Selene and that blonde guy, are confirmed to be coordinators) are civilians, and attacking the satellite was inflicting pain on millions of innocent lives, so he decides to stay with DSSD and follow the dream he had BEFORE his parents were killed by the random terrorists. |
People don't forgive that easily. Even though he's a soldier and was only following orders, he pulled the trigger and it's hard for people to overlook that easily. I imagine if Sven does work with DSSD, he'd face a lot of difficulties at the start. Of course, people in CE behave awkwardly at times, so you never know.
| Quote: | | Second; This might seem odd cause Selene looks -alot- older than him, I can see him and Selene getting together. Surviving something big (like a journey from Venus back to earth) together can do that to people (Athrun, Cagalli, Shinn, Stella are great examples....) |
If anything, Selene was a mother figure to Sven. I'm not going to say it's impossible, but unlikely and frankly, I'd disprove of it.
| Quote: | | Third; Meeting up with Kira or Lacus or one of the main heroes from SEED at one point, even if it's just for a simple conversation, thus furthering his turn against Blue Cosmos. |
I don't see the point in this at all. I sincerely hope Sven steers away from Kira and co since they have plenty of uber powerful MS and pilots already. If it were just a conversation, they don't have much to talk about so it'd still be pointless. In fact, they should treat Sven the same as most characters in spin-offs and keep him independent so he doesn't become another shiny plot commodity/background decoration like Yzak, Dearka, Andy and Mwu. Best way to do this of course, would be to kill him off - but I think Stargazer's ending is a bit too subjective for that to happen.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: Sven's future (post-Stargazer) |
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| Genocide wrote: | | Quote: | | Second; This might seem odd cause Selene looks -alot- older than him, I can see him and Selene getting together. Surviving something big (like a journey from Venus back to earth) together can do that to people (Athrun, Cagalli, Shinn, Stella are great examples....) |
If anything, Selene was a mother figure to Sven. I'm not going to say it's impossible, but unlikely and frankly, I'd disprove of it. |
Generally stuff like this is reserved for fanfiction
i think i'd actually be cool, get a break from all those average anime confused relationships where nobody is actually in a relationship and get some oddies in there
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The first option sounds the most reasonable. For all we know if they survive then by the time they come back Blue Cosmos/Logos might have already been taken down by ZAFT. That leaves Sven with not many options but to follow his dreams before his parents were killed. I think there were flashbacks to help support that claim.
As for number two it has been confirmed that Selene is 28 years old while Sven is 19 so there is a nine year age gap between the two of them. I am not sure about the possibility of them getting together since from the way it looks Sven saw her more of a mother figure. In the cases of Kira/Lacus, Shinn/Stellar and Athrun/Cagalli they were all close in age.
The third possibility sounds more like wishful thinking than fact. Sven and Selene really have no need to meet up with Kira and Lacus. Since Stargazer is being treated as a side story I doubt they'll have much interaction with characters from Gundam Seed Destiny. We were lucky to see Neo, Sting and Stellar for a brief moment.
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:03 am Post subject: |
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| sorin255 wrote: | | To start with, I'm one of the people that believe Sven and Selene are still alive because if you're hybernating, your body is pretty much surviving on bare minimum, so they were probably fine. |
The chances of encountering a rescue/normal space vessel amidst the endless boundaries of space is negligible. Hibernation can't last forever and taking account the limited supply of oxygen they had, they would been dead in a week. And there will be no Tori coming to their rescue too so that basically kills all other possibilities of survival.
| sorin255 wrote: | | Second; This might seem odd cause Selene looks -alot- older than him, I can see him and Selene getting together. Surviving something big (like a journey from Venus back to earth) together can do that to people (Athrun, Cagalli, Shinn, Stella are great examples....) |
Just wanted to highlight the fact that all the relationships mentioned above cannot be successful...as of yet so that basically defeats any point the examples may raise.
| OniTempyst wrote: | | If 3 happens, I want it where Sven goes goddamn nuts when he hears Kira's philosophy, DUR DUR LACUS DUR FUTURE DUR PEACE DUR DUR. This is when he pulls out his pistol and shoots Kira in the face while Kira has his deep "serious discussion" face. |
Preferably, he should fire at Lacus point-blank infront of Kira then challenge him to a duel. That will be fairer. Kira wasn't half as irritating as Lacus and I will love to witness a duel between Kira and Sven. No arguments about Kira holding back then..
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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There is a slim chance that they survived; though it would have been better just to say they did or not.
As for Selene and Sven getting together, nto sure about that. Not only do we have an age difference but there is no reason for them to get togehter. They spent 99% of their time together asleep, so its not like they had a chance to bond. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know if this goes to the right place, but I guess it can be. Apparently, whether it is official fact or not, we can say Sven and Selene made it out of there alive.
This post was found on animesuki, based on the notes from Stargazer manga artist Naoki Moriya.
| Deacon Blues wrote: | For those of you who have argued countless times over the status of Sven and Selene, I believe you can rest assured. Naoki Moriya, the manga artist, has a little something interesting at the finale of the manga. Whether people chose to accept this as official or not may. The manga installment concludes with an unpublished Epilogue which shows Sol visiting Ed's grave and apologizing. Also present is Reyes. As Sol prepares to leave, Selene shows up with a bag. She sets one beer down on his grave for him, and cracks open another for her and downs it. She says "he came, together with me" and points over to someone walking on a crutch (the arm brace kind). Standing over by a tree stumbling along while walking is none other than Sven. While I'm not entirely sure about his current mental state, he still seems to have a hard time letting go of the brain washing as he launches into a mini-rant. To quell him, Selene asks him, "What is your favorite thing to do?", to which he replies, "I want to look at the stars!"
So, whether you take that as fact or not, there you have it. They survived. |
At least, we have something more satisfying at the end. |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:03 am Post subject: |
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| OniTempyst wrote: | | If 3 happens, I want it where Sven goes goddamn nuts when he hears Kira's philosophy, DUR DUR LACUS DUR FUTURE DUR PEACE DUR DUR. |
LOL
Yeah, I've about had enough of their philosophy too.
I don't think Sven would betray the EA; unlike many other characters, he seems certain of who he is and what he wants to do. He is not emotionally weak like, say, Athrun. I think he comes off as more mature, and consequently, I could see him having a relationship with an older woman. Personally, I think they are still alive (as evidenced by the radio contact at the end of Stargazer) and its not like he got blown up in a Gundam, so by SEED logic, if Walfeld, Mwu, and Kira (twice!) survived, Sven should have survived too.
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| Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:38 am Post subject: |
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So, what he would do? Rejoin the EA? Settle down with Selene? Be her knight in Shining armor?
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:55 am Post subject: |
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I think Sven will survive, heck even Mwu survived lol..with that extend of blast from Archangel class 
If Sven would survive, i thnk he will not rejoin EA since his dream is stargazing. Maybe he would involve in DSSD. Just my 0.002cents speculation |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like the first option is the answer.
Sven and Sol back to earth and live as brother - sister
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