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wmhld
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Click here to see the hidden message (It might contain spoilers) well...
fon had a fight with team trinity even with his neck bleeding badly......( he reminds me of heero somehow)
he retrived kyrios' gn-drive after the final battle of s1, ignored allelujah, and kicked patrick back to safty 
no stage is in the empty 4 years, and the fight over gn-drive...
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 7:51 am Post subject: |
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| wmhld wrote: | Click here to see the hidden message (It might contain spoilers) well...
fon had a fight with team trinity even with his neck bleeding badly......( he reminds me of heero somehow)
he retrived kyrios' gn-drive after the final battle of s1, ignored allelujah, and kicked patrick back to safty
no stage is in the empty 4 years, and the fight over gn-drive...
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adding on to the quote:
- he ignored Tieria too
somehow,Fon could still continue after the neck restrain detonated 
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| Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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| zweitrix wrote: | | somehow,Fon could still continue after the neck restrain detonated :shock: |
Hanayo kept Fon living be rerouting some GN Particles to him or something strange like that.
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arthurh3535
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Gundam OO Mangas are starting to sound more and more like a lot of the ASTRAY stuff. Very ignorable, and I'll write up my 'own' reasons for things happening behind the scenes.
I mean, what the heck, dude? |
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jamesxms
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| Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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| arthurh3535 wrote: | Gundam OO Mangas are starting to sound more and more like a lot of the ASTRAY stuff. Very ignorable, and I'll write up my 'own' reasons for things happening behind the scenes.
I mean, what the heck, dude? |
No, it doesn't sound all that unreasonable. From the manga, we get to know how Tieria survived, how Kyrios' GN Drive was retrieved and where Allelujah went. Moreover, at least we knew who the 2nd Generation Gundam Meisters were, what these Gundams are and what their functions are. It's purely naive to think that Gundam 00's manga seem very ignorable. |
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arthurh3535
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| Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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| jamesxms wrote: | | No, it doesn't sound all that unreasonable. From the manga, we get to know how Tieria survived, how Kyrios' GN Drive was retrieved and where Allelujah went. Moreover, at least we knew who the 2nd Generation Gundam Meisters were, what these Gundams are and what their functions are. It's purely naive to think that Gundam 00's manga seem very ignorable. |
The reasoning of the F's pilot is very strange. He recovers the Kyrios's GN-Drive but not the pilot (a S-Class Secret of Celestial Being) but rescues *Graham!* who is an enemy of Celestial Being.
It would make much greater sense that the GN-Drive was ejected by VEDA or that Allelujah awoke long enough to eject it himself, but was trapped in the destroyed mobilesuit.
The fact that the Anime doesn't *reference* F at all is a strike against it. Why not show it in the background?
OO F is very poorly thought out, IMO. |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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| arthurh3535 wrote: | | jamesxms wrote: | | No, it doesn't sound all that unreasonable. From the manga, we get to know how Tieria survived, how Kyrios' GN Drive was retrieved and where Allelujah went. Moreover, at least we knew who the 2nd Generation Gundam Meisters were, what these Gundams are and what their functions are. It's purely naive to think that Gundam 00's manga seem very ignorable. |
The reasoning of the F's pilot is very strange. He recovers the Kyrios's GN-Drive but not the pilot (a S-Class Secret of Celestial Being) but rescues *Graham!* who is an enemy of Celestial Being.
It would make much greater sense that the GN-Drive was ejected by VEDA or that Allelujah awoke long enough to eject it himself, but was trapped in the destroyed mobilesuit.
The fact that the Anime doesn't *reference* F at all is a strike against it. Why not show it in the background?
OO F is very poorly thought out, IMO. |
The anime did reference F by saying there were 5 GN Drives active back in ep 16 in S1. |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| arthurh3535 wrote: | | The fact that the Anime doesn't *reference* F at all is a strike against it. Why not show it in the background? |
While I share some sentiment to this, it is stated that the Main cast of Gundam 00 does not know half the workings of CB, and even said in 00F that the main cast of Gundam 00 is not to know about Fereshite because of intelligence reasons.
Heck, even the Main cast didn't know about Ribbons or Andrew Corner.
Besides, many background references were made to 00F, and for that matter, not everyone reads 00F or knows about it.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Chaa chan wrote: | | arthurh3535 wrote: | | The fact that the Anime doesn't *reference* F at all is a strike against it. Why not show it in the background? |
While I share some sentiment to this, it is stated that the Main cast of Gundam 00 does not know half the workings of CB, and even said in 00F that the main cast of Gundam 00 is not to know about Fereshite because of intelligence reasons.
Heck, even the Main cast didn't know about Ribbons or Andrew Corner.
Besides, many background references were made to 00F, and for that matter, not everyone reads 00F or knows about it. |
Ribbons definitely, but I get the feeling that Tieria and Sumeriega both had contact (or knowledge from Veda) on the "Observers".
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The anime did reference F by saying there were 5 GN Drives active back in ep 16 in S1. |
But only showed the O Gundam in mention to it, not that iwas used in a different, secret Gundam.
I think the thing that really chaps me about O F is that he supposedly is required for Lockon to 'succeed' and manages to do it without getting spotted.
It cheapens the real main characters. |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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| arthurh3535 wrote: |
But only showed the O Gundam in mention to it, not that iwas used in a different, secret Gundam.
I think the thing that really chaps me about O F is that he supposedly is required for Lockon to 'succeed' and manages to do it without getting spotted.
It cheapens the real main characters. |
Key word was active. They hinted the 5th one was still in use and we all know 0 Gundam wasn't. Also, Feldt said that the Thrones were not anything like the 2nd generation Gundams giving us hints they were other Gundams besides 0 and the 3rd gens. |
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arthurh3535
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| No, it just means they aren't like the 2nd Gen Suits. That doesn't insinuate that there are other suits that they are like or that they are in use by Celestial Being. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think the manga is ignorable. I'm not familiar with all the supporting material they are putting out for Gundam 00, but all the side stories are generated to add depths and falvor to the universe. Of course it can be a disaster if done poorly. Aside from the manga and other visual books, radio plays also are common to popular anime shows. In the end, all the different media is trying to get people interested in the mythos of Gundam.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:10 am Post subject: |
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| This manga is really something. Anyone know how many volumes it is? |
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GOD GUNDAM
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| Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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1.Does anyone know what this group of Celestial Being did during the 4 years skip?
2.Does anyone know what this group of Celestial Being did that had an affect on the anime besides getting the GN Drives from the Gundams? |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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1. I know very very little, so someone else feel free to chime in, but they actually were responsible for recovering Kyrios' GN Drive. This is more of a prompt for someone who knows more to come in, but I remember the Astraea, powered by the 0 Gundam's GN Drive, actually fought against another prototype unit that was being powered by Kyrios's GN Drive.
2. Besides that? Yeah, not a lot, haha. I know they detailed missions, where for instance they aided Lockon at one point without his knowledge (but it was a mission that wasn't in the anime).
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| Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Hey guys, just an FYI, Zeonic Scans released Gundam 00F Volume 2, link in the download topic.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:49 am Post subject: |
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| It is nice to know that there was another system trap in which VEDA doesn't acknowledge the existence of the Gundam Meisters as in don't have their data,but the Gundam Meisters still retain their access rights. |
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| Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:23 am Post subject: |
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hi guys
there are 2 things in my mind:cloned ribbons and Ribbons inside Veda.
is there anyone here had an idea of another season? (like Season 3). would there be a season 3? |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:42 am Post subject: |
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| tsinelas wrote: | hi guys
there are 2 things in my mind:cloned ribbons and Ribbons inside Veda.
is there anyone here had an idea of another season? (like Season 3). would there be a season 3? |
No. A movie and summary episode will follow suit after season 2 instead of another season. |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:21 am Post subject: |
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From 19.04 seconds, Gundam 00F #18
Click here to see the hidden message (It might contain spoilers) 00F #18 “Explosion”
This time in 00F at the end of the chapter they included a diagram of all of CB. According to that, the androids are divided into “Meister Types” and “Terminal Types.” The Terminal Types are androids that Veda uses to develop an understanding of humans. They [live] among humans and think that they themselves are human. They haven’t gone to the extent of forming a their own country, but tens of thousands of them exist. {holy shit}
The “Meister Types” were made to be Gundam Meisters and serve other important functions for the plan. Ribbons, Tieria, and Hanayo [among others] are this type.
[EDIT] Aaannnd the brick-shitting revelations keep coming (I was gonna wait to post the whole thing at once but the short version is: HIXAR IS THE WHITE SKITTLE)
This chapter continues with Hixar vs. Black Plutone.
Bring, in Plutone, addresses Hixar saying, “I know who you are. Hixar Fermi, Veda’s ‘eyes’.”
Why should Fon Spark try to intervene without orders from Veda? Hixar argues. Why should you participate in Fon’s reckless acts?
Bring tells him that it’s because it’s part of Aeolia’s plan. To Hixar who asks what someone who is not part of CB is doing talking about the plan, Bring declares that he is an Innovator and that Hixar is also the same sort of thing, and that they are superior beings that have surpassed humanity.
Hixar is shocked to learn that he isn’t human. To Bring who chastises him saying that he should be glad, [Hixar] objects [shouting] “You’re wrong!”
He declares, “Certainly, there’s a chance I might not be human. But, I’m not an Innovator. I’m Hixar Fermi. I’m nothing other than that!”
Bring informs him that the reason Ribbons let Hixar live was that it would be beneficial if Veda collected data through Hixar, because that data would end up in Ribbons and co.’s hands. Bring turns his gun [toward Hixar] and adds that if he won’t obey, the plan takes precedence. But Hixar declares “Then fight me! As one person, Hixar Fermi. I absolutely cannot lose if you fight as an Innovator who is bound by the plan.”
Once again Bring and Hixar’s fight begins.
Meanwhile, Ribbons and Regene were inspecting Fon’s plan. By dropping an asteroid and causing damage on a global scale, the angered masses would support the government’s armed forces reorganization plan. If that happened, humanity’s will would unite and the plan could proceed to the next stage. And so, shouldn’t we just leave Fon alone? Regene concludes.
[EDIT] Slow going today because my attention span is very short at the moment… I’ll finish when I get back from class.
“Not quite,” Ribbons comments. Perhaps, there’s a chance that your thinking would have interesting results, he says, provoking Regene. Regene observes that there’s no doubt that a squad is being deployed to make sure the elevator isn’t damaged, as the army spills from the orbital elevator before his eyes. The commander is the Federation Army’s Arbor Lindt.
Hanayo reports to Fon that the size of the squad that is normally deployed is increasing, and things she read about the plan. Seeing the army’s movements, they were spreading out in a defensive formation with the orbital elevator in the center.
“They’re only protecting the elevator?” Hanayo calmly points out.
“Is that it? Then it’d be fine if I dropped [this] on the Earth, wouldn’t it. {this last sentence confuses me, I give up ;A;}”
Fon says, laughing and sticking out his tongue.
The scene changes to Ferschette {sp? I’m too lazy to look it up right now}. The solar furnaces are constantly monitored by Veda. This is because [Veda] uses special quantum transmissions. If these transmissions can be picked up, the remaining solar furnaces’ locations should be able to be determined, but without knowing each solar furnace’s transmission pattern, it’s impossible. What Sheririn {?} proposed was instead to amplify and transmit the transmission pattern of the solar furnace in Ferschette’s possession. That way, they can try to let Ian find them. But, [at the same time] the enemy will also be able to find Fershette’s location.
“Now, there’s nothing else we can do but believe.” Chall says, accepting the proposal.
Meanwhile, Bring and Hixar’s fight continues.
Hixar’s machine goes into Trans-am and fires on Bring’s Plutone, but the Plutone was protected by a GN Field.
“It’s useless. You can’t breach this shield with Dynames’ rifle.” {er.. what’s Hixar piloting exactly?}
“I don’t think so.”
Shooting at precisely the same spot, Hixar’s beam pierced the GN Field. Black Plutone explodes. Bring, escaping in the core fighter, says “It will be impossible to stop the asteroid from falling with a machine that’s [just] used Trans-am.” Hixar informs Bring of his belief that, “He said, ‘If you are defeated, you have a chance to fight.’ If that’s the case, even after the fight is over it ought to suit you.” {I’m not totally sure what he means here, I’ve probably got something wrong} And Bring says “Should I believe the words of that kind of man?”
“I’ve known him for much longer than you.” Hixar responds. {I have no idea who they’re talking about, I’d guess some of this is a reference back to an earlier chapter that I haven’t read though}
Behind Hixar, before falling to Earth the asteroid blew up.
Fon’s aim was to use a belt of debris to block off sunlight [to the area]. With the debris above the orbit[al ring?] the solar collectors were shrouded [in darkness].
Hanayo speaks.
“This is Fon’s way of doing things. Without doing something as unilaterally destructive as dropping an asteroid, this action is how he deals with the enemy. He wants to see “that”…..”
Ahahahahaha, Fon laughs loudly, continuing next issue.
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